What do these hip and cuff shaping adjustment buttons mean?

This is the second most frequently asked questions.  Yep, it's confusing.  Read this, and you'll know how to crete the sweater pattern you want.  This page describes the operation of these two very confusing, very helpful buttons, which appear on every order form. 

The two buttons will look something like this.

Enter cuff shaping preference:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit.
Enter hip rib shaping preferences:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit. 
To learn about the cuff button click here. To learn about the hip button, click here.
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Cuff Shaping

While ordering a sweater pattern, you will see buttons that look like this.  Suppose you set it to "no" as shown below.

Enter cuff shaping preference:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit.

If you select "no", the number of stitches in the cuff will be equal to the number of stitches just above the cuff.  This is illustrated in  the "stitch-row" diagram in the right hand column below.   Notice that the number of stitches below the welt line equals the number above the welt line.  This piece would be very easy to knit because there is no need to increase or decrease stitches after the cuff. (The the stitch-row diagrams do not illustrate the shape of the sleeve. They simply show the number of stitches at each row. )

Because the stitch used for the cuff (one of the welts) is different from the stitch used for the rest of the sleeves, when knit, the cuff width will be different from the width of the sleeve immediately above the cuff.  This can be good or bad depending on your preference.  You can see the true shape of the sweater in the "true shape" diagrams. (See the diagram immediately below and to the left.)

Quite often, designers will set this button to "no" if they are knitting the sleeve using a stitch like stockinet and knitting the cuffs in a rib stitch.  The example I show here illustrates typical results for that combination of stitch choices.  That makes the cuffs draw in nicely, and creates a simple to knit pattern. 

However, some knitters want to use other stitches.  Hand knitters might want to use garter stitch for the cuff.  Garter stitch tends to "spread".  If a sweater has garter stitch cuffs and a stockinet body, and the knitter responds "no" to the question above, the cuffs will flare out!  Many people think that's ugly. 

The undesirable flare will be eliminated if you create your design using "yes".   Selecting "yes" requires you to make additional decisions.  But it can be worth it.
 

True shape schematic.

When you pick "no" the width of the cuff adjusts itself according to the relative stitch gauges of the "welt" and "stitch" patterns.  I told the program that the "main" stitch gauge was 10 st/in and the "welt" stitch gauge was 13 st/in.  For this combination, the cuff draws in. 

Play around and see what happens if you run the program with a "main" stitch gauge 10 st/in and a "welt stitch" gauge of 7 st/in! (You probably won't want your sleeve to look like that!)
 

Stitch-row schematic.

 When you pick "no", there the number of stitches above and below the welt line are equal.  So, you will not be told to increase or decrease stitches when you finish the cuff welt.
 


 
This is an illustration of what happens if you pick "yes"
Enter cuff shaping preference:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit.

Choosing "yes" permits you to pick the exact cuff dimension width, and may or may not require you to increase or decrease stitches at the cuff.  This schematic was generated for a case where the main stitch gauge was 10 st/in, and the well stitch gauge was 15 st/in.  These relative stitch gauges could occur if the main stitch pattern spread and the welt is knit from a tight rib. 

Examine the Stitch-Row diagram immediately below and to the right.  Notice that the number of stitches in the welt is greater than the cuff.  When you choose "yes", the program will force the cuff to be a dimension you specify on the second part of the order form.  (A specific example is shown below the True Shape Schematic.)

The number of stitches in the cuff may be larger or small.  The instructions will tell you to increase or decrease evenly across a row at the end of the welt.  (This is easy for hand knitters.  Machine knitters find it a bit tedious to increase or decrease stitches evenly across a row.  But it can be done.)

True Shape Schematic

To create a sleeve of this shape, I first chose "yes" to the cuff rib spacing.  I then also specified:

Wrist dimension: 6.7"
Wrist ease : 2.7"
Cuff ease :  0.27"

The detailed dimensions and ease were entered into appropriate boxes in the Arm Dimensions portion of the 2nd order form, that's the long order form. 

Note that the cuff is 6.7" + 0.27" = 7" wide; the half width is 3.5" as shown.  Note that the width after the cuff is 6.7 + 2.7 = 9.4".  The half width of 4.7 is shown. (Values are rounded.)

Stitch-Row Diagram

Note that the number of stitches above and below the cuff differ.  This will usually happen when you pick "yes".  The number of stitches above and below the welt will be calculated to shape the sleeve to the dimensions you want. 

In this example, number of stitches in the cuffs is equal to 106 = 2 * 53.  The number above the cuff is 96 = 2 * 48.  You would need to decrease stitches above the cuff.  You might get directions like this if your ribbing is very, very tight.
 


 

Hip Rib Shaping

This is an illustration of what happens if you pick "no" for the hip rib shaping.
Enter hip rib shaping preferences:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit.

If you select "no", the number of stitches in the hip welt will be equal to the number of stitches just above the hip welt.  See the "stitch-row" schematic in the right hand column below; the welt line is shown in violet.  This piece would be very easy to knit because there is no need to increase or decrease stitches after the welt. 

Because the stitch used for the rib welt is different from the stitch used for body of the sweater, the welt may be wider or narrower than sleeve immediately above the cuff.  This can be good or bad depending on your preference.  When you run the program, you can always see the true shape of the sweater in the "true shape" diagrams.

There are many, many reasons knitters might pick "yes" for the button shown above. These include:

  • The knitter wants to use fancy stitches for the body and the welt.  This causes the welt to draw in or flair out too much.
  • The future wearer of the sweater has a large hip or tummy.  She probably doesn't want the welt to draw in and hug her hips. 
If you picked no, and then don't like the width of the cast on, then go back and pick "yes".
True Shape Schematic

Stitch-Row Diagram.

 


 
 
This is an illustration of what happens if you pick "yes"
Enter hip rib shaping preferences:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit.

If you select "yes", the width of the rib welt will take on the dimension you specify on the second page of the order form. Sort of. If you understand the "cuff" discussion, you think you already know what this section is going to say!  But determining the hip cast on is more complicated. Because when I wrote this program, I figured you want to be sure the sweater fits over your bust too!

The schematics below were generated selecting "yes" for the hip rib shaping option.  I also specified a main stitch gauge of 10 st/in, and the welt stitch gauge of 15 st/in.  These relative stitch gauges could occur if the main stitch pattern spread and the welt is knit from a tight rib.  If you created a pattern and chose "no" with these stitch gauges, the hip welt will really, really draw in and hug. I don't want any sweater to hug my hips and gut! 

Examine the Stitch-Row diagram below and to the right.  Notice that the number of stitches below the welt line greater than above the welt line.   When you choose "yes", the program will force the hip welt to be a width you specify on the second part of the order form.  This make the true shape take the form you want; see the True Shape diagram below.

The instructions will tell you to increase or decrease evenly across a row at the end of the welt. 

True Shape Schematic

Once you select "yes" for this hip rib shaping choice you can control the hip rib a large number of ways!  This gives you flexibility, but it's also confusing.  The best way it to fiddle. 

Stitch-Row Diagram


 
Other settings to create back schematics.

The settings I used to create the two back schematics shown above are provided in the table below.  The table is in the same format you will see when you are filling out the second order form (that is, the long one!)  For reference, the chosen body style was "straight".

Because I chose "yes" for final "estimate" question in the table below, the program actually estimated my dimension at the cast on.  It used the my back waist length, the distance from my waist to my hips, my hip dimension and my waist dimension to do this!  It guessed that I measure about 37.05" at the sweater hem. That's why it put the 37.05" in the little box you see below. I didn't change that.

So, now you figure: The program thinks Lucia's measurement at the cast on level is 37.05". And she asked for a hip ease of 1.2".  And she asked the rib ease to be -0.6".  Well, why didn't the cast on end up to be 37.05 - 0.6 = 35.45"?  And why isn't the part after the welt 37.05 + 1.2 = 38.25"? 

Well, the program would have chosen those measurement except.....

The program noticed that my bust was 37" and I wanted 2.4" of bust ease.  So, the program made my sweater 39.4" wide!  Notice 9.8" is one quarter of that, and that's the width at the bust. Since this is a straight sweater, that's also the width above the cast on!  Yep, it wasn't going to make the sweater only 38.25" wide when I needed it wider for my chest.

So, what about the hips?  The hip rib ease of -0.6 was applied though.  Notice that program thinks I measure 37.05" at the cast on level.  It applied the ease of -0.6" that I asked for.  This means I asked for a rib of 36.45.  When divided by four and rounded, this becomes 9.2", the number on the diagram!

When you read the final knitting instructions, the program will tell you which numbers it used.  So, you can whether you got what you wanted.  If you didn't get what you wanted, go back and adjust the measurements.

Waist and Hip Measurements 
To obtain the for the back shown above 
Waist: Place the tape around your natural waist.  Waist ease in inches: (not used for straight sweaters) 
Hip circumference: Place the tape around the fullest part of your hip. Don't cheat!  Hip ease: 

Ease for ribbing at hip. (The value you request for ease of ribbing at the hip is only used if you also select "yes" for the hip rib shaping preferences two rows below this box. ): 

Distance from your waist to the fullest part of hip:  This is a vertical measure. Put the tape on your belly button, measure down to the level where your hips are fullest. (Yes, this is hard to do. If you tie an elastic string around your hips it will help. Fortunately a precise measurement isn't necessary for most sweaters.) 
Enter hip rib shaping preferences:

"no" is easier to knit. 
"yes" provides a better fit. 
  • Selecting "yes" at left permits you to control the amount that the sweater draws in. The knitting directions will generally instruct you to increase or decrease stitches after the cuff. 
  • If you chose "no" at left you will not have to increase or decrease stitches after the ribbing. However, depending on the rib stitch gauge, the ribbing at the hip will draw in or flare out. 
  • Make The Knitting Fiend estimate the body circumference at cast on? 

    If you click "yes" The Knitting Fiend will estimate a value for the cast-on width by scaling based on your body measurements, and the sweater length. If you haven't adjusted the sweater length, or any of your body dimensions, the program will guess 37.05 inches at the cast on. Check one:
    yes:
    no:


    If you check "no" in the selection region to the left The Knitting Fiend will use the numbers you place in the measurement box below. Body circumference at cast on : Estimate where the bottom of the sweater will fall. Measure around yourself there. 

     
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